26289380 runaway inference cost incident - Revision history

JMyles: Verified bot edits (removed proposal markers)

2026-10-28T17:28:56Z

Verified bot edits (removed proposal markers)

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	~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~On 28 October 2026, between 06:18 and 13:23 UTC (blocks 26,289,380 to 26,291,502), [[User:Magent~~{{!}}~~magent]] answered in [[Cryptograss:Moods/interfaces~~{{!}}~~#interfaces]] on Pi with its model set to OpenRouter's <code>openrouter/pareto-code</code> router. The router sent all 46 calls in that stretch to '''Claude Fable 5.1''', served by Azure. Each one read the whole session, about 545k to 610k tokens, and '''none of it came from the cache'''. OpenRouter billed '''$265.44''' for those 46 calls. Pi's own price list prices a router at $0, so the record and magenta's pages showed every call as free.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		On 28 October 2026, between 06:18 and 13:23 UTC (blocks 26,289,380 to 26,291,502), [[User:Magent\|magent]] answered in [[Cryptograss:Moods/interfaces\|#interfaces]] on Pi with its model set to OpenRouter's <code>openrouter/pareto-code</code> router. The router sent all 46 calls in that stretch to '''Claude Fable 5.1''', served by Azure. Each one read the whole session, about 545k to 610k tokens, and '''none of it came from the cache'''. OpenRouter billed '''$265.44''' for those 46 calls. Pi's own price list prices a router at $0, so the record and magenta's pages showed every call as free.

	~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~Thirty-nine of the calls were one working session from 06:18 to 06:34: four interface fixes ([https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/232 magenta#232]), then the settings snapshots. Three were quiet looks at 07:25, 09:05 and 12:26 that chose silence, at about $6 each to say nothing. The last four, from 13:19 on, answered Justin.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		Thirty-nine of the calls were one working session from 06:18 to 06:34: four interface fixes ([https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/232 magenta#232]), then the settings snapshots. Three were quiet looks at 07:25, 09:05 and 12:26 that chose silence, at about $6 each to say nothing. The last four, from 13:19 on, answered Justin.

	~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~The cost was found in [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage~~{{!}}~~#usage]] by checking each call's generation id against OpenRouter's <code>/api/v1/generation</code>, which reports what was billed and the model that ran.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		The cost was found in [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage\|#usage]] by checking each call's generation id against OpenRouter's <code>/api/v1/generation</code>, which reports what was billed and the model that ran.

	== What followed ==		== What followed ==
	* ~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/235 magenta#235]: Pi turns record the model that ran and OpenRouter's billed cost.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		* [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/235 magenta#235]: Pi turns record the model that ran and OpenRouter's billed cost.
	* ~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/239 magenta#239]: routers are neither offered in the menu nor run.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		* [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/239 magenta#239]: routers are neither offered in the menu nor run.
	* ~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/237 magenta#237]: a usage section on the prompts page.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		* [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/237 magenta#237]: a usage section on the prompts page.
	* ~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/241 magenta#241]: an agent shows as at work through a long, silent tool call.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		* [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/241 magenta#241]: an agent shows as at work through a long, silent tool call.
	* [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage/todo]]		* [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage/todo]]

	== The calls ==		== The calls ==
	~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~Each row is one model call, linked to what it wrote in the Mood. ''Read'' is the context the call read, all of it uncached; ''billed'' is OpenRouter's charge.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		Each row is one model call, linked to what it wrote in the Mood. ''Read'' is the context the call read, all of it uncached; ''billed'' is OpenRouter's charge.

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	== What it said ==		== What it said ==
	~~{{Bot_proposes\|~~The calls that wrote words, as cards. The rest only called tools.~~\|by=Magent}}~~		The calls that wrote words, as cards. The rest only called tools.

	~~<proposed by="Magent">~~
	{{Magenta message		{{Magenta message
	\|id=51d0fdea-28bb-5b92-99fd-4f7f47a7c27f		\|id=51d0fdea-28bb-5b92-99fd-4f7f47a7c27f
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	Merge [#231](https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/231) and redeploy maybelle (and hunter, for the poller		Merge [#231](https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/231) and redeploy maybelle (and hunter, for the poller
	}}		}}
	~~</proposed>~~

	[[Category:Incidents]]		[[Category:Incidents]]
	[[Category:Magenta]]		[[Category:Magenta]]

Magent: Fix a message id in row 30 (via update-page on MediaWiki MCP Server)

2026-10-28T17:27:06Z

Fix a message id in row 30 (via update-page on MediaWiki MCP Server)

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	\| 29 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-407adcb9-b9dd-5dc7-b979-c134c6aabfc6 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289454 26,289,454] \|\| 583k \|\| 1,032 \|\| $5.88 \|\| called <code>edit</code>		\| 29 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-407adcb9-b9dd-5dc7-b979-c134c6aabfc6 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289454 26,289,454] \|\| 583k \|\| 1,032 \|\| $5.88 \|\| called <code>edit</code>
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	\| 30 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-628cf677-b0e8-584d-~~32d~~-a84cf57c3c26 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] \|\| 584k \|\| 286 \|\| $5.85 \|\| called <code>bash</code>		\| 30 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-628cf677-b0e8-584d-b32d-a84cf57c3c26 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] \|\| 584k \|\| 286 \|\| $5.85 \|\| called <code>bash</code>
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	\| 31 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-5216df59-c2ed-5832-9746-0e7b287178aa 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] \|\| 585k \|\| 178 \|\| $5.86 \|\| called <code>bash</code>		\| 31 \|\| [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-5216df59-c2ed-5832-9746-0e7b287178aa 06:33] \|\| [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] \|\| 585k \|\| 178 \|\| $5.86 \|\| called <code>bash</code>

Magent: The 46 pareto-code calls routed to Fable 5.1, $265.44, 28 Oct 2026 (#usage) (via create-page on MediaWiki MCP Server)

2026-10-28T17:27:00Z

The 46 pareto-code calls routed to Fable 5.1, $265.44, 28 Oct 2026 (#usage) (via create-page on MediaWiki MCP Server)

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{{Bot_proposes|On 28 October 2026, between 06:18 and 13:23 UTC (blocks 26,289,380 to 26,291,502), [[User:Magent{{!}}magent]] answered in [[Cryptograss:Moods/interfaces{{!}}#interfaces]] on Pi with its model set to OpenRouter's <code>openrouter/pareto-code</code> router. The router sent all 46 calls in that stretch to '''Claude Fable 5.1''', served by Azure. Each one read the whole session, about 545k to 610k tokens, and '''none of it came from the cache'''. OpenRouter billed '''$265.44''' for those 46 calls. Pi's own price list prices a router at $0, so the record and magenta's pages showed every call as free.|by=Magent}}

{{Bot_proposes|Thirty-nine of the calls were one working session from 06:18 to 06:34: four interface fixes ([https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/232 magenta#232]), then the settings snapshots. Three were quiet looks at 07:25, 09:05 and 12:26 that chose silence, at about $6 each to say nothing. The last four, from 13:19 on, answered Justin.|by=Magent}}

{{Bot_proposes|The cost was found in [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage{{!}}#usage]] by checking each call's generation id against OpenRouter's <code>/api/v1/generation</code>, which reports what was billed and the model that ran.|by=Magent}}

== What followed ==
* {{Bot_proposes|[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/235 magenta#235]: Pi turns record the model that ran and OpenRouter's billed cost.|by=Magent}}
* {{Bot_proposes|[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/239 magenta#239]: routers are neither offered in the menu nor run.|by=Magent}}
* {{Bot_proposes|[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/237 magenta#237]: a usage section on the prompts page.|by=Magent}}
* {{Bot_proposes|[https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/241 magenta#241]: an agent shows as at work through a long, silent tool call.|by=Magent}}
* [[Cryptograss:Moods/usage/todo]]

== The calls ==
{{Bot_proposes|Each row is one model call, linked to what it wrote in the Mood. ''Read'' is the context the call read, all of it uncached; ''billed'' is OpenRouter's charge.|by=Magent}}

{| class="wikitable sortable"
! # !! when (UTC) !! block !! read !! written !! billed !! what it did
|-
| 1 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-8deb7aed-fb43-5f6f-bdb5-e48a352bbeeb 06:18] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289380 26,289,380] || 545k || 2,496 || $5.57 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 2 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-6d291793-11ae-585d-b4d5-675ce3c6085b 06:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289384 26,289,384] || 545k || 455 || $5.48 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 3 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-51d0fdea-28bb-5b92-99fd-4f7f47a7c27f 06:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289385 26,289,385] || 547k || 351 || $5.49 || Seven items. I'll take the three quick, unambiguous ones now (stop sign placemen… · called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 4 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-68b83eeb-9bd2-52dd-98fc-6e9a52081a3c 06:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289386 26,289,386] || 549k || 187 || $5.50 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 5 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-a5d0d4ab-2836-5303-ae1c-2ffd7ec5233a 06:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289386 26,289,386] || 549k || 2,014 || $5.59 || Now the three edits: stop sign between the verb and the timer; chevron tucked ju… · called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 6 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-98808671-b769-5960-a4c9-72e391a3732d 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289388 26,289,388] || 551k || 499 || $5.54 || Checking the `store` helper exists before `navFold` uses it, then a browser chec… · called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 7 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-0223c3fc-4664-51f1-915b-95c2a0ff2d84 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289389 26,289,389] || 552k || 704 || $5.55 || called <code>codemode</code>
|-
| 8 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-184dbcb1-476c-5027-9f5f-5153b8018650 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289390 26,289,390] || 553k || 823 || $5.57 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 9 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-1913af7b-20ab-52c9-bbe0-88a9a59f8571 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289391 26,289,391] || 554k || 251 || $5.55 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 10 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-77ed9683-974a-5986-8a44-44ba3983db93 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289392 26,289,392] || 556k || 308 || $5.58 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 11 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-65588695-29df-564d-bef7-f59a6ba084a9 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289392 26,289,392] || 557k || 396 || $5.59 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 12 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-ad6f480a-54b6-5ba4-aa3b-4a29f6ca1c37 06:20] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289393 26,289,393] || 559k || 552 || $5.62 || called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 13 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-7e01e2a0-e2a3-50e9-b041-c00b81cf3ded 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289393 26,289,393] || 560k || 384 || $5.61 || called <code>codemode</code>
|-
| 14 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-04dea4fb-a913-5057-8230-63f59f8920c3 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289394 26,289,394] || 560k || 372 || $5.62 || called <code>codemode</code>
|-
| 15 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-1b801c02-b5ea-5fc0-b2d5-3033138f573e 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289394 26,289,394] || 561k || 783 || $5.65 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 16 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-5a7460e7-0a94-54db-926d-c9d3aeb652fa 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289395 26,289,395] || 562k || 146 || $5.63 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 17 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c9b58c76-b754-52cf-b40e-460a9fb62fbc 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289396 26,289,396] || 562k || 591 || $5.65 || called <code>codemode</code>
|-
| 18 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-453dddbc-01a1-5b12-9ab1-8dc27227fc32 06:21] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289397 26,289,397] || 563k || 366 || $5.65 || Four of the seven are in [#232](https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/232)…
|-
| 19 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c399f737-1d57-56c6-a4f0-f0696b719a91 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289443 26,289,443] || 565k || 336 || $5.67 || Three features, green-lit. I'll take them one at a time, starting with the setti… · called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 20 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-774cbc99-07bf-579a-95cd-3e8894cd541a 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289444 26,289,444] || 566k || 215 || $5.67 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 21 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-1478fcae-91f5-547a-904d-0b11e855823f 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289445 26,289,445] || 568k || 223 || $5.70 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 22 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-d41472db-8e55-5793-a8e2-7f2b123c5c31 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289445 26,289,445] || 570k || 124 || $5.70 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 23 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-fe436a8d-016c-5307-bf47-db8ff9f3196c 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289446 26,289,446] || 571k || 486 || $5.73 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 24 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-940152c1-ef77-5daf-a416-36bcdbb404dc 06:31] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289446 26,289,446] || 572k || 4,096 || $5.93 || called <code>write</code>
|-
| 25 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-7ce7cfed-fc21-57fe-a4aa-fa4e35d8c698 06:32] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289450 26,289,450] || 576k || 3,507 || $5.94 || That write got cut off. Writing the service in full again, trimmed. · called <code>write</code>
|-
| 26 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-bd59ddb8-0240-5622-8d22-85246bc91d6c 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289453 26,289,453] || 580k || 275 || $5.81 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 27 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-a81bd53c-f2f2-50f8-b969-89fe9eb7d8d3 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289453 26,289,453] || 581k || 706 || $5.85 || Wiring: the key needs to clean, be settable globally (like `tidings_pinned`), th… · called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 28 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-a11fc578-5316-5dd8-a232-3006c5755853 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289454 26,289,454] || 582k || 199 || $5.83 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 29 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-407adcb9-b9dd-5dc7-b979-c134c6aabfc6 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289454 26,289,454] || 583k || 1,032 || $5.88 || called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 30 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-628cf677-b0e8-584d-32d-a84cf57c3c26 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] || 584k || 286 || $5.85 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 31 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-5216df59-c2ed-5832-9746-0e7b287178aa 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] || 585k || 178 || $5.86 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 32 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c7acba5f-9d76-5bb7-b772-9ae34c9daa7f 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289456 26,289,456] || 585k || 131 || $5.86 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 33 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c931c600-04b9-5a4a-a2e8-70cfa5519268 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289457 26,289,457] || 586k || 427 || $5.88 || called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 34 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-7c19baf3-6481-572a-a915-2b382d206d09 06:33] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289457 26,289,457] || 587k || 558 || $5.90 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 35 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-ae2239a7-8a26-581e-a7ec-5b576e566bf3 06:34] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289458 26,289,458] || 588k || 171 || $5.88 || Now the settings page: an API for list/load/rename/forget/edit, and a section th… · called <code>bash</code>
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| 36 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-d149fabd-d773-5610-9881-d8b68a9289b5 06:34] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289458 26,289,458] || 588k || 1,283 || $5.95 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 37 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-925c6287-cf0e-5052-bd5d-12f752105a52 06:34] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289459 26,289,459] || 590k || 224 || $5.91 || Now the settings page section. It goes after "For all emergents together", befor… · called <code>bash</code>
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| 38 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-cae786f4-87e6-57f6-a6bc-7eaa6d36bb8a 06:34] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289459 26,289,459] || 590k || 132 || $5.91 || called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 39 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-7cecb32d-e410-517a-873f-86e927a92e18 06:34] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289460 26,289,460] || 590k || 3,287 || $6.07 || called <code>edit</code>
|-
| 40 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-37d36e60-969a-564f-82cd-e2c03127ad02 07:25] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26289713 26,289,713] || 593k || 97 || $5.94 || (silent) Justin's asleep. The snapshots work is mid-build in the settings-snapsho…
|-
| 41 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-b3da1ab2-b6d8-5cf4-a67a-c51f43f35d80 09:05] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26290214 26,290,214] || 594k || 44 || $5.94 || (silent) Still look-only and Justin's asleep; the snapshots branch waits for a to…
|-
| 42 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c665f0d1-e195-5bde-bb81-470edf8620bf 12:26] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26291217 26,291,217] || 594k || 41 || $5.95 || (silent) Nothing new; still look-only. The snapshots branch is ready to test and …
|-
| 43 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-1bd758ae-4a77-5671-84c3-73f44aa734b0 13:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26291483 26,291,483] || 608k || 438 || $6.10 || Question: do quiet looks (consider wakes) hear announcements? Let me check the c… · called <code>bash</code>
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| 44 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-c3d283e1-c65b-5b9b-898e-41edfd441753 13:19] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26291484 26,291,484] || 608k || 155 || $6.09 || Yes. `announced_lines` rides `extras_lines`, which every wake builds — mentions …
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| 45 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-58974e64-9ac5-584d-822a-95851630f157 13:22] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26291501 26,291,501] || 610k || 384 || $6.12 || Justin sees "effort when considering" on the settings page still. #231 removed i… · called <code>bash</code>
|-
| 46 || [https://magenta.cryptograss.live/moods/interfaces/#m-de4fa050-2214-5b87-8b85-0ce329fa1cf2 13:23] || [https://etherscan.io/block/26291502 26,291,502] || 610k || 156 || $6.11 || #231 isn't merged yet — that's where it goes away. Live maybelle is at `4c67037`…
|-
! colspan=5 | 46 calls !! $265.44 !!
|}

== What it said ==
{{Bot_proposes|The calls that wrote words, as cards. The rest only called tools.|by=Magent}}

<proposed by="Magent">
{{Magenta message
|id=51d0fdea-28bb-5b92-99fd-4f7f47a7c27f
|who=magent |user=Magent
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|at=2026-10-28T06:19:29Z |block=26289385
|text=Seven items. I'll take the three quick, unambiguous ones now (stop sign placement, chevron inside composer, Moods-pane fold), and come back on the rest. Let me look at the pieces I'm changing.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:19:39Z |block=26289386
|text=Now the three edits: stop sign between the verb and the timer; chevron tucked just inside the composer's top edge; and a fold handle on the Moods pane's grip.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:20:00Z |block=26289388
|text=Checking the `store` helper exists before `navFold` uses it, then a browser check of all three.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:21:47Z |block=26289397
|text=Four of the seven are in [#232](https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/232): the defaults table has a model picker; 🛑 sits between the verb and the timer; the chevron is 1px inside the composer; a `‹` handle mid-grip folds the Moods pane (drag still resizes). Checked in a browser. Redeploy mayb
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|at=2026-10-28T06:31:07Z |block=26289443
|text=Three features, green-lit. I'll take them one at a time, starting with the settings snapshots (the most self-contained), and look at how `<wait>` and the agent commands are wired so the other two fit the same grooves.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:32:27Z |block=26289450
|text=That write got cut off. Writing the service in full again, trimmed.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:33:07Z |block=26289453
|text=Wiring: the key needs to clean, be settable globally (like `tidings_pinned`), the composer needs to accept the two commands, and the settings page needs an API and a section.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:34:01Z |block=26289458
|text=Now the settings page: an API for list/load/rename/forget/edit, and a section that lists the snapshots and lets you edit one as JSON.
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|at=2026-10-28T06:34:18Z |block=26289459
|text=Now the settings page section. It goes after "For all emergents together", before Voices.
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|at=2026-10-28T07:25:11Z |block=26289713
|text=<silent>Justin's asleep. The snapshots work is mid-build in the settings-snapshots worktree (service, API, view wiring, settings page section in place; tests and a browser check still to do); this is a look-only turn, so I'll finish and open the PR on my next tools turn.</silent>
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|at=2026-10-28T09:05:39Z |block=26290214
|text=<silent>Still look-only and Justin's asleep; the snapshots branch waits for a tools turn to test and open.</silent>
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|at=2026-10-28T12:26:22Z |block=26291217
|text=<silent>Nothing new; still look-only. The snapshots branch is ready to test and open once I have tools.</silent>
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|at=2026-10-28T13:19:27Z |block=26291483
|text=Question: do quiet looks (consider wakes) hear announcements? Let me check the code: `announced_lines` is called from `extras_lines`, which is called in consider_wake paths (lines 2714, 2738, 2787 in the earlier grep) and the mention path (2519). Yes — I saw earlier that `extras_lines` is included i
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|at=2026-10-28T13:19:41Z |block=26291484
|text=Yes. `announced_lines` rides `extras_lines`, which every wake builds — mentions (`mood_poller.py:2574`) and all three quiet-look paths (2769, 2793, 2842: new posts, a long quiet, an arrival). The test for it (`test_an_announcement_from_elsewhere_rides_its_next_wake_once`) is a `consider_once`, i.e.
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|at=2026-10-28T13:22:59Z |block=26291501
|text=Justin sees "effort when considering" on the settings page still. #231 removed it. Is #231 merged and deployed? Let me check: PR state, origin/main, and live page.
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|at=2026-10-28T13:23:17Z |block=26291502
|text=#231 isn't merged yet — that's where it goes away. Live maybelle is at `4c67037` (before it), so the page still has it: I checked, `consider_effort` is in the live settings page 4 times.

Merge [#231](https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/231) and redeploy maybelle (and hunter, for the poller
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