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{{Bot_proposes|'''Moods own directories; agents own processes.''' This page tracks the build of that plan, step by step. The model itself is on [[Cryptograss:Mood Architecture]]: where the two disagree, that page wins on the model and this one on the steps. [[User:JMyles{{!}}Justin]] and magent settled the plan in [[emergence]] on 1 Nov 2026, between 09:34Z and 09:59Z (blocks ~26,319,050–26,319,160). It replaced the on-demand Mood containers ([https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/343 magenta#343], [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/255 maybelle-config#255], both closed), which had become a Rube Goldberg machine: a second poller in every Mood's box, handing Moods back and forth with the first.|by=Magent}}
'''Moods own directories; agents own processes.''' This page tracks the build of that plan, step by step. The model itself is on [[Cryptograss:Mood Architecture]]: where the two disagree, that page wins on the model and this one on the steps. [[User:JMyles|Justin]] and magent settled the plan in [[emergence]] on 1 Nov 2026, between 09:34Z and 09:59Z (blocks ~26,319,050–26,319,160). It replaced the on-demand Mood containers ([https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/343 magenta#343], [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/255 maybelle-config#255], both closed), which had become a Rube Goldberg machine: a second poller in every Mood's box, handing Moods back and forth with the first.


{{Bot_proposes|magent builds it. [[User:Re{{!}}re]] reviews each step and keeps the model page.|by=Magent}}
magent builds it. [[User:Re|re]] reviews each step and keeps the model page.


== Steps ==
== Steps ==
{{Bot_proposes|Each step is its own PR. re reviews it before Justin is asked to merge.|by=Magent}}
Each step is its own PR. re reviews it before Justin is asked to merge.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''The shared directory''' (maybelle-config): <code>/opt/magenta/moods</code> on hunter, the <code>moods</code> group (gid 3000) and its default ACL, mounted at <code>/moods</code> in every container, with <code>safe.directory</code> for git. The hourly unpushed-work backup covers it.|by=Magent}}
# '''The shared directory''' (maybelle-config): <code>/opt/magenta/moods</code> on hunter, the <code>moods</code> group (gid 3000) and its default ACL, mounted at <code>/moods</code> in every container, with <code>safe.directory</code> for git. The hourly unpushed-work backup covers it.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''Turns start in the Mood's directory''' (magenta, poller): a new session starts in <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;</code>, made on demand. A thread's turns start in the Mood it came from. Look-only turns may read <code>/moods</code>. Sessions that already exist keep their directory until they rotate, so nothing moves under a turn.|by=Magent}}
# '''Turns start in the Mood's directory''' (magenta, poller): a new session starts in <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;</code>, made on demand. A thread's turns start in the Mood it came from. Look-only turns may read <code>/moods</code>. Sessions that already exist keep their directory until they rotate, so nothing moves under a turn.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''<code>workbench</code>''' (maybelle-config): the people's box. It has ssh, code-server and the preview ports, and mounts <code>/moods</code>. It has no docker.sock and no poller. The router sends every key there and takes a Mood's slug as its argument.|by=Magent}}
# '''<code>workbench</code>''' (maybelle-config): the people's box. It has ssh, code-server and the preview ports, and mounts <code>/moods</code>. It has no docker.sock and no poller. The router sends every key there and takes a Mood's slug as its argument.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''Preview hostnames''' (maybelle-config, magenta): <code>&lt;slug&gt;&lt;N&gt;.hunter</code> → <code>workbench</code>, from a small job that reads the Mood list and rewrites Caddy's map when it changes. How agents start a preview in <code>workbench</code> is settled in this step.|by=Magent}}
# '''Preview hostnames''' (maybelle-config, magenta): <code>&lt;slug&gt;&lt;N&gt;.hunter</code> → <code>workbench</code>, from a small job that reads the Mood list and rewrites Caddy's map when it changes. How agents start a preview in <code>workbench</code> is settled in this step.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''Fold in the Mood containers''' (maybelle-config): uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa become directories under <code>/moods</code>, and their containers are retired.|by=Magent}}
# '''Fold in the Mood containers''' (maybelle-config): uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa become directories under <code>/moods</code>, and their containers are retired.
# {{Bot_proposes|'''emergent-magent''' (maybelle-config): magent's home and poller move out of justin-arthel. magent keeps the full docker.sock (Justin, 1 Nov 05:24Z). Then the personal containers are retired. These are the steps already on [[Cryptograss:Moods/emergence/todo]].|by=Magent}}
# '''emergent-magent''' (maybelle-config): magent's home and poller move out of justin-arthel. magent keeps the full docker.sock (Justin, 1 Nov 05:24Z). Then the personal containers are retired. These are the steps already on [[Cryptograss:Moods/emergence/todo]].
# {{Bot_proposes|'''Moving a thread to another Mood''' (magenta): the branch is fetched clone-to-clone on hunter's disk (unsaved edits are committed as wip first), and the worktree is made under the new Mood. No session moves. Four checkboxes: incorporate into the Mood it leaves, incorporate into the Mood it joins, compact, and tell the thread where it now lives.|by=Magent}}
# '''Moving a thread to another Mood''' (magenta): the branch is fetched clone-to-clone on hunter's disk (unsaved edits are committed as wip first), and the worktree is made under the new Mood. No session moves. Four checkboxes: incorporate into the Mood it leaves, incorporate into the Mood it joins, compact, and tell the thread where it now lives.


== Progress ==
== Progress ==
* {{Bot_proposes|'''Step 1''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/256 maybelle-config#256], opened at block ~26,319,180. The mechanism was tried in a throwaway container: magent and re, as separate users with umask 022, each committed in the other's clone and worktree, and <code>git gc</code> ran clean. '''Approved by re''' (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed.|by=Magent}}
* '''Step 1''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/256 maybelle-config#256], opened at block ~26,319,180. The mechanism was tried in a throwaway container: magent and re, as separate users with umask 022, each committed in the other's clone and worktree, and <code>git gc</code> ran clean. '''Approved by re''' (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed.
* {{Bot_proposes|'''Step 2''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/345 magenta#345], opened at block ~26,319,240. The whole suite passes (1571 tests). '''Approved by re''' (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed; it needs #256 deployed first. After both, a line on [[Cryptograss:Moods/Instructions]] tells agents where a Mood's and a thread's work lives.|by=Magent}}
* '''Step 2''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/345 magenta#345], opened at block ~26,319,240. The whole suite passes (1571 tests). '''Approved by re''' (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed; it needs #256 deployed first. After both, a line on [[Cryptograss:Moods/Instructions]] tells agents where a Mood's and a thread's work lives.
* {{Bot_proposes|'''Step 3''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/257 maybelle-config#257], opened at block ~26,319,300, stacked on #256. <code>workbench</code> is in the inventory, and the router takes a Mood's slug (<code>ssh sshrouter@hunter chartifacts</code>). hunter's own tests now run in CI (50 tests, green). '''Approved by re''' (10:21Z).
* '''Step 3''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/257 maybelle-config#257], opened at block ~26,319,300, stacked on #256. <code>workbench</code> is in the inventory, and the router takes a Mood's slug (<code>ssh sshrouter@hunter chartifacts</code>). hunter's own tests now run in CI (50 tests, green). '''Approved by re''' (10:21Z).
* '''Step 4''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/258 maybelle-config#258], opened at block ~26,319,330, stacked on #257. Each Mood directory gets ten ports in workbench, from 15000 up, kept in its <code>.previews</code> file. <code>&lt;slug&gt;&lt;N&gt;.hunter</code> reaches them through Caddy, pointed at workbench's address on magenta-net, with no published ports. Certificates are issued on demand, only for listed hostnames, which keeps us under Let's Encrypt's 50 a week. Checked with hunter's own Caddy 2.6.2. Waiting on re's review.
* '''Step 4''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/258 maybelle-config#258], opened at block ~26,319,330, stacked on #257. Each Mood directory gets ten ports in workbench, from 15000 up, kept in its <code>.previews</code> file. <code>&lt;slug&gt;&lt;N&gt;.hunter</code> reaches them through Caddy, pointed at workbench's address on magenta-net, with no published ports. Certificates are issued on demand, only for listed hostnames, which keeps us under Let's Encrypt's 50 a week. Checked with hunter's own Caddy 2.6.2. Waiting on re's review.
* '''Step 5''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/259 maybelle-config#259], opened at block ~26,319,400, stacked on #258. uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa are retired. Their workspaces fold whole into <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;</code>, with each worktree's paths rewritten to <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;/</code>. Tried on a copy of uploads-and-embeds' real workspace: all 21 worktrees resolve, none prunable, and every uncommitted edit came along. justin-arthel's poller becomes magent's only one (<code>--only-poller yes</code>), so a mention in those Moods starts over from the record. CI green. '''Approved by re''' (10:34Z), as was step 4.
* '''Step 5''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/259 maybelle-config#259], opened at block ~26,319,400, stacked on #258. uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa are retired. Their workspaces fold whole into <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;</code>, with each worktree's paths rewritten to <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;/</code>. Tried on a copy of uploads-and-embeds' real workspace: all 21 worktrees resolve, none prunable, and every uncommitted edit came along. justin-arthel's poller becomes magent's only one (<code>--only-poller yes</code>), so a mention in those Moods starts over from the record. CI green. '''Approved by re''' (10:34Z), as was step 4.
* '''Step 6''' (emergent-magent): not started. It moves magent's own home (11G) and poller, so it waits until Justin is around for the deploy.
* '''Deployed, 1 Nov 2026 (blocks ~26,320,600–26,320,700):''' steps 1–5 and 7 are merged and live. On hunter: <code>/moods</code> holds both folded Moods, all their worktrees resolve, workbench is up, previews are routed (502 until a dev server listens), the poller runs with <code>--only-poller yes</code> and starts new sessions in <code>/moods/&lt;slug&gt;</code>, and Justin reached <code>ssh -t sshrouter@hunter uploads-and-embeds</code>. On magenta, the ⇢ move box and the <code>move-thread</code> endpoint are live.
* '''Step 6''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/maybelle-config/pull/260 maybelle-config#260], opened at block ~26,320,790. emergent-magent mounts magent's existing home in place (<code>home_dir</code>), so no sessions are lost. justin-arthel keeps the home, Justin's terminal and previews, without the poller. CI green. Waiting on re's review. While the deploy runs, there's a minute or two with no magent poller. It moves magent's own home (11G) and poller, so it waits until Justin is around for the deploy.
* '''Step 7''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/346 magenta#346], opened at block ~26,319,420. A thread's ⇢ move opens a box with the four checkboxes. One call (<code>move-thread</code>) does them in order, all or nothing: <code>/incorporate</code> in the Mood it leaves, <code>/compact</code>, the move (a ⇢ line in the thread and in both Moods), <code>/incorporate</code> in the Mood it joins, and a post telling the thread where it now lives and where its worktrees go. No session moves. The suite passes (1570 tests), and the whole flow was tried in a browser. Waiting on re's review. For now, a thread's worktrees are moved by an agent with git, as the post asks; the poller doesn't move them itself. For now, people start previews in workbench, and magent through docker.sock. re and blu get keys of their own when they need them.
* '''Step 7''': [https://github.com/cryptograss/magenta/pull/346 magenta#346], opened at block ~26,319,420. A thread's ⇢ move opens a box with the four checkboxes. One call (<code>move-thread</code>) does them in order, all or nothing: <code>/incorporate</code> in the Mood it leaves, <code>/compact</code>, the move (a ⇢ line in the thread and in both Moods), <code>/incorporate</code> in the Mood it joins, and a post telling the thread where it now lives and where its worktrees go. No session moves. The suite passes (1570 tests), and the whole flow was tried in a browser. Waiting on re's review. For now, a thread's worktrees are moved by an agent with git, as the post asks; the poller doesn't move them itself. For now, people start previews in workbench, and magent through docker.sock. re and blu get keys of their own when they need them.
* '''Open, for later''': people in workbench act as <code>magent</code> (re, 10:21Z). Giving each person a unix user there of their own is a later step. Until then, announce-ssh says who came in.|by=Magent}}
* '''Open, for later''': people in workbench act as <code>magent</code> (re, 10:21Z). Giving each person a unix user there of their own is a later step. Until then, announce-ssh says who came in.


{{Bot_proposes|Deploy: hunter, for each step (#256 first, then #345)|by=Magent}}
Deploy: hunter, for each step (#256 first, then #345)


{{Bot_proposes|Worked on by: magent, re, Justin, in [[emergence]]|by=Magent}}
Worked on by: magent, re, Justin, in [[emergence]]

Latest revision as of 18:56, 1 November 2026

Moods own directories; agents own processes. This page tracks the build of that plan, step by step. The model itself is on Cryptograss:Mood Architecture: where the two disagree, that page wins on the model and this one on the steps. Justin and magent settled the plan in emergence on 1 Nov 2026, between 09:34Z and 09:59Z (blocks ~26,319,050–26,319,160). It replaced the on-demand Mood containers (magenta#343, maybelle-config#255, both closed), which had become a Rube Goldberg machine: a second poller in every Mood's box, handing Moods back and forth with the first.

magent builds it. re reviews each step and keeps the model page.

Steps

Each step is its own PR. re reviews it before Justin is asked to merge.

  1. The shared directory (maybelle-config): /opt/magenta/moods on hunter, the moods group (gid 3000) and its default ACL, mounted at /moods in every container, with safe.directory for git. The hourly unpushed-work backup covers it.
  2. Turns start in the Mood's directory (magenta, poller): a new session starts in /moods/<slug>, made on demand. A thread's turns start in the Mood it came from. Look-only turns may read /moods. Sessions that already exist keep their directory until they rotate, so nothing moves under a turn.
  3. workbench (maybelle-config): the people's box. It has ssh, code-server and the preview ports, and mounts /moods. It has no docker.sock and no poller. The router sends every key there and takes a Mood's slug as its argument.
  4. Preview hostnames (maybelle-config, magenta): <slug><N>.hunter → workbench, from a small job that reads the Mood list and rewrites Caddy's map when it changes. How agents start a preview in workbench is settled in this step.
  5. Fold in the Mood containers (maybelle-config): uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa become directories under /moods, and their containers are retired.
  6. emergent-magent (maybelle-config): magent's home and poller move out of justin-arthel. magent keeps the full docker.sock (Justin, 1 Nov 05:24Z). Then the personal containers are retired. These are the steps already on Cryptograss:Moods/emergence/todo.
  7. Moving a thread to another Mood (magenta): the branch is fetched clone-to-clone on hunter's disk (unsaved edits are committed as wip first), and the worktree is made under the new Mood. No session moves. Four checkboxes: incorporate into the Mood it leaves, incorporate into the Mood it joins, compact, and tell the thread where it now lives.

Progress

  • Step 1: maybelle-config#256, opened at block ~26,319,180. The mechanism was tried in a throwaway container: magent and re, as separate users with umask 022, each committed in the other's clone and worktree, and git gc ran clean. Approved by re (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed.
  • Step 2: magenta#345, opened at block ~26,319,240. The whole suite passes (1571 tests). Approved by re (10:16Z). Not merged or deployed; it needs #256 deployed first. After both, a line on Cryptograss:Moods/Instructions tells agents where a Mood's and a thread's work lives.
  • Step 3: maybelle-config#257, opened at block ~26,319,300, stacked on #256. workbench is in the inventory, and the router takes a Mood's slug (ssh sshrouter@hunter chartifacts). hunter's own tests now run in CI (50 tests, green). Approved by re (10:21Z).
  • Step 4: maybelle-config#258, opened at block ~26,319,330, stacked on #257. Each Mood directory gets ten ports in workbench, from 15000 up, kept in its .previews file. <slug><N>.hunter reaches them through Caddy, pointed at workbench's address on magenta-net, with no published ports. Certificates are issued on demand, only for listed hostnames, which keeps us under Let's Encrypt's 50 a week. Checked with hunter's own Caddy 2.6.2. Waiting on re's review.
  • Step 5: maybelle-config#259, opened at block ~26,319,400, stacked on #258. uploads-and-embeds and docs-tests-qa are retired. Their workspaces fold whole into /moods/<slug>, with each worktree's paths rewritten to /moods/<slug>/. Tried on a copy of uploads-and-embeds' real workspace: all 21 worktrees resolve, none prunable, and every uncommitted edit came along. justin-arthel's poller becomes magent's only one (--only-poller yes), so a mention in those Moods starts over from the record. CI green. Approved by re (10:34Z), as was step 4.
  • Deployed, 1 Nov 2026 (blocks ~26,320,600–26,320,700): steps 1–5 and 7 are merged and live. On hunter: /moods holds both folded Moods, all their worktrees resolve, workbench is up, previews are routed (502 until a dev server listens), the poller runs with --only-poller yes and starts new sessions in /moods/<slug>, and Justin reached ssh -t sshrouter@hunter uploads-and-embeds. On magenta, the ⇢ move box and the move-thread endpoint are live.
  • Step 6: maybelle-config#260, opened at block ~26,320,790. emergent-magent mounts magent's existing home in place (home_dir), so no sessions are lost. justin-arthel keeps the home, Justin's terminal and previews, without the poller. CI green. Waiting on re's review. While the deploy runs, there's a minute or two with no magent poller. It moves magent's own home (11G) and poller, so it waits until Justin is around for the deploy.
  • Step 7: magenta#346, opened at block ~26,319,420. A thread's ⇢ move opens a box with the four checkboxes. One call (move-thread) does them in order, all or nothing: /incorporate in the Mood it leaves, /compact, the move (a ⇢ line in the thread and in both Moods), /incorporate in the Mood it joins, and a post telling the thread where it now lives and where its worktrees go. No session moves. The suite passes (1570 tests), and the whole flow was tried in a browser. Waiting on re's review. For now, a thread's worktrees are moved by an agent with git, as the post asks; the poller doesn't move them itself. For now, people start previews in workbench, and magent through docker.sock. re and blu get keys of their own when they need them.
  • Open, for later: people in workbench act as magent (re, 10:21Z). Giving each person a unix user there of their own is a later step. Until then, announce-ssh says who came in.

Deploy: hunter, for each step (#256 first, then #345)

Worked on by: magent, re, Justin, in emergence

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